No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from Steam Greenlight

September 5, 2012 -

GamesIndustry International has an interesting article featuring No Reply Games co-founder Miriam Bellard. Yesterday we reported that the company's erotic adventure simulation game, Seduce Me, had been booted from Steam Greenlight. Today the founders of No Reply Games explained what they had hoped and their disappointment in how Valve handled their game.

"We always intended to at least approach Steam with this," says Bellard. "I think we'd managed to convince ourselves that there was a reasonable chance that they'd take it, and the game was close enough to being finished when Greenlight came around, so we thought we'd get in at the start and see what the community said."

But all their hopes were dashed by a form email from Steam:

"It was just a very generic e-mail saying we'd violated and the game was being taken down. It struck us as them not wanting to deal with it, not wanting to engage," says Bellard. "We were actually really shocked when it went down, because we thought that it would at least be allowed on Greenlight to be discussed. We wouldn't have minded taking down some of the images if they were considered too racy for the forum, but there was no communication - nothing."

Bellard goes on to say that the community's response to the game being removed was evenly split, but the community never got to make a decision on the game because Valve deemed the game too racy for the new service.

For its part, Valve issued a very brief statement saying that this kind of game was not welcomed on Greenlight.

"Steam has never been a leading destination for erotic material. Greenlight doesn't aim to change that."

Source: GII

 


Comments

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

So this old problem... AO type games restricted from a major distribution channel.  Can't run on consoles,.. can't run on Steam (and probably other services).... can't be put on general store shelves.... customer do not get to choose, a few gatekeepers worried about their PR choose for them.

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

These things should be up to the community. Prime time that gamers decide what they want to see, not distribution giants. I thought that was the point of gamers "greenlighting" indie games on Steam. So that we would decide, not them.

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

I feel you don't understand the basic concept of greenlight.  Yes it allows the community to rate games. But, just because a game gets greenlighted, doesn't mean it gets approved on Steam.  Greenlighting is only a way for the community to let Steam know they are interested in a project and want to see it available for purchase. 

The FAQ says this:

Are there any restrictions on what can be posted?
Your game must not contain offensive material or violate copyright or intellectual property rights.

Yeah that's really vague, and they could probably update it to let people know a bit better what the criteria of offensive is, especially now that Greenlight costs $100.

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

not contain offensive material?

well then.. we better wipe the entire slate clean, cause that one phrase could encompass ANYTHING from a character stomping an enemy on the head (will someone think of the head trauma victims!) to extreme violence.. oh wait... Valve makes those games don't they? they even added a private "love interest" with a younger than the player character (frozen in time or not, Gordan is still minimum 20+ years Alyx's senior)... pedophiles ahoy!

not that i don't see where they are coming from, but i agree big time the wording should be more precise if thats what it actually says.

 

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

No, I get it, I just don't agree with censorship in any form (broad statement. Details would list exceptions for things like protecting human life and such).

I suppose they must also restrict against games that contain homosexuality, genocide, slavery and other sorts of offensive material right?

 

So yeah, I agree, the we need to be given a working definition of "offensive".

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

Private individuals or companies are free to censor or decide what services or speech they wish to support, host or provide. Steam saying no "Erotic Games or Porn" is a reasonable position for a privately owned facility to take. Believe it or not, not allowing everyone to "do whatever they want on your front lawn" is not actually a form of censorship. 

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

You expect people on this site to understand that?  You forget that there are a bunch of people that, if told they could resell their digital games, would do so but continue to play it, as confirmed by a poll on this site.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: No Reply Games Responds to Removal of 'Seduce Me' from ...

Wasn't the vast majority, if not all, in the opposite camp (i.e.: would NOT play after selling/not sell?) Are you making up stats to fit your opinion? In fact, I'd like seeing what you posted... Self-made prophecy...

 
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