Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

October 24, 2012 -

Earlier this month, an unknown number of CoD players balked at the religious text inscribed on the frame of a picture hung in the bathroom of the Favela multiplayer map.  In response, developer Infinity Ward promised to edit the offending imagery and subsequently removed the entire map from play.

About two weeks later, the edited map was made available to PS3 gamers.  Xbox 360 and PC players should have access to it soon.

This week’s poll asks if Infinity Ward handled the situation correctly.  The poll options are simple but that doesn’t mean you can’t elaborate on your response in the comments section or an email to SuperPACPodcast@gmail.com.  Should game content ever be edited?  Maybe you feel offended players should just deal with it.  Or perhaps you think content should only be altered once a certain percentage of players are offended.  What extenuating circumstances or various shades of gray change how you’d react to content editing?

We’ll be sure to take enough time from our Halloween fun to discuss the poll results and share your thoughts on next week’s podcast.

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-Reporting from San Diego, GamePolitics Contributing Editor Andrew Eisen
 


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Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

So long as they were doing it of their own accord I'm cool with it.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

I can agree with that.

I think the pattern of 'oh, we didn't realize that was offensive to people that are not well represented in our development process.  We didn't mean it to be, so we will change it' is a good one.  Too many people and places try to buckle down and be even more offensive because they are upset that someone pointed out they were offensive in the first place.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

I don't care if they want to remove an inconsequential prop from the map, but they didn't have to take the map down entirely just to please a vocal minority.  They should have just pushed a patch for it or an update to it, but left the old version up in the meantime.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

The exploding wheel gets the grease, everybody knows that...

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

Wow, why do people just assume the gamers that complained are fanatics or threatening to kill themselves?

It just makes me feel the game community and perhaps the western world is still prejudice towards anyone that seemingly relates to the attackers on 9/11.

Terrorists come from all religions and societies. Please nothing is solved by keep the stereotypes going.

-Mrxknown_JG-

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

The specific people complaining don't have to make the threat for it to be a factor in the decision.  Plain and simple, IW would not have reacted so swiftly (if at all) if it hadn't been a Muslim issue, and the reason the Muslims get those kid gloves is because they riot and murder and blow people up when they get butthurt about stupid shit like this.  Even if the particular individuals who initially complained didn't make that threat, once it's out there you never know when some radical imam is going to catch wind of it and use it to stir up another shitstorm.  Moan about stereotypes all you want, but it does happen, and often enough that it's constantly on people's minds when Muslims complain about something.  That's a drag for the rational Muslims, sure, but you can't just ask the whole rest of the world to turn off the pattern recognition part of their brains.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

I would say removal would depend on what the text said. If it has some kind of abusive content, or if it's a corruption of a religious text (which it apparently is), then yes.

On the other hand, I wish developers would be as quick to fix bugs as they are to calm religious hypersensitivity.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

They wanted to take it down so that it showed they were doing something about it.

The reason it took 2 weeks is because both Sony and MS have to certify it. Not to mention after the change they needed to test the map again and make sure nothing was damaged by the change.

-Mrxknown_JG-

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

They could have done what they do best, not listen to the community, then quietly push a patch fixing the issue without anyone knowing.

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Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

No.  Catering to irrational, thin-skinned extremists is not the right thing to do.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

Extermists come from all religions and societies. And these were gamers that were offended by holy scriptures being placed in a bathroom on a picture frame (I think).

They have a right to say when they are feeling offended. It's up to Activision to decide whether it necesited a change,

There is no such thing as a thin-skinned person. All those teenagers that kill themselves because of bullying and/or abuse at home are not irrational and not thin-skinned. When someone feels offended, perscuted, or wronged they have a right to speak up.

No one is given the right to declare one person's greviances as inconsequential.

-Mrxknown_JG-

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

First and most importantly, I have the right to declare anything I damn well please.  It's called free speech.  You don't have to agree, but don't you dare tell me I can't say it.

As for the rest of your points, no shit, extremists come from all religions and societies.  I don't know why you feel the need to point out this obvious fact.  I didn't specify any particular religion or society in my post.  My feelings about this would be the same if it was Christians, Hindus, Jews, Atheists, Wiccans, or whomever, raising a stink about something so trivial.

Sure they have the right to say they're offended.  Did you actually read my post at all before you spouted off what I have to assume is just your standard boilerplate list of talking points?  I said that we shouldn't have to make changes to accommodate these nutjobs, but nowhere did I say they shouldn't be allowed to spout their idiocy.

Yes there is such a thing as a thin-skinned person.  From Merriam-Webster: Thin-skinned, adjective, (2): unduly susceptible to criticism or insult; touchy.  There are certainly people who are unduly susceptible to criticism or insult (for example, rioting and murdering people because some comics mocked your centuries-dead holy man).  Therefore, thin-skinned people exist.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

Of course it should really totally absolutely be removed because otherwise those fanatics are going to blow themselfes up again...

 

Oh, and head that thing about Tekken Tag Tournament 2? Exactly the same bull*.

My tolerance ends when their delusions affect me.

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

Yeah, because only fanatics were offended by what was on the map.

Why can't you have a intelligent remark?

-Mrxknown_JG-

Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

Why did it take 2 weeks?


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Re: Poll: Is Editing the Favela CoD Map the Right Thing To Do?

Probably something to do with recertification on Microsoft/Sony's end.

 
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