Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next Consoles?

November 12, 2012 -

We know when Nintendo is releasing its next console: November 18th (NA).  Yep, that's this Sunday.

But when will Sony and Microsoft's next consoles see release?

Neither company talked about the successors to their current consoles at this summer's E3 but it's already been six and seven years since the respective debuts of the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.  Well, they sure as heck aren't coming out this year.  Do you think we'll see either of them next year?  You'd think we'd have heard something more concrete by now if that were the case.  On the other hand, more than seven years between console releases is hard to imagine as well.

What do you think?  Vote in the poll and fill up the comments section with your thoughts.  You can even email them to us at SuperPACPodcast@gmail.com if you're so inclined.  We'll discuss the poll results and your opinions on next week's podcast.

I promise to try very hard not to hijack the show with nothing but Wii U talk.

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-Reporting from San Diego, GamePolitics Contributing Editor Andrew Eisen


Comments

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Depends on how good the WII U does, I'm sure Microsoft and Sony got their eyes on Nintendo while they test the waters of the consumer market to see if people are willing to buy a next generation console, then they will act accordingly

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Both Sony and Microsoft will rush and get their consoles out next year, and within a few weeks of each other. They will be buggy.

 - Warren

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

I predict that they'll both be out next year, but with the caveat that neither will be anything much better than the Wii U.  I think the difference between the three will be about the difference between the PS2, GameCube and XBox, due to pricing concerns, profitability concerns and just the change in the focus of the gaming market.

With the pricing of PC technology, it doesn't make much financial sense to go for expensive consoles based on graphics - not when you can usually upgrade the PC you have now for less than the cost of a console to get noticeably better-looking games.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

That doesn't make any sense though.  Why would Sony or Microsoft bother releasing new consoles if they're not going to be much better then what they already have?

Yes, Nintendo's Wii was a success even though it wasn't much more powerful than the Gamecube before it but that was due to the unique controls.  You think Sony or Microsoft are going to do something unique or eye-catching with their next that will mitigate a lack of power boost?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Well, one reason why SONY might want to do it (although why would the user do so) is to fix the security snafu they made with their previous console...

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

You ARE aware that Sony is flirting with bankruptcy, and that the PS3 is a major cause of that, right?  Sony cannot afford to spend a shit-ton of money on a super-powerful console and sell it at a steep loss so people will actually buy it.  They have no financial choice but to sell their next console for a profit.

As for MS, they very well could make a super-powerful console, but why would they?  We know what Nintendo is bringing to the table, and we know Sony technically can't even afford to match that (but they're stupid and will do so anyway).  As such, MS has no reason to make a console vastly more powerful, since the other consoles will just cause multiplat quality to be lowered on it.  They can save money and sell a system at either a slight profit or smaller loss to reach a good price point.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

But again: "Why would Sony or Microsoft bother releasing new consoles if they're not going to be much better then what they already have?"

"[Sony has] no financial choice but to sell their next console for a profit."

But why bother releasing a new console if it's not going to be much more powerful than the PS3.

"We know what Nintendo is bringing to the table, and we know Sony technically can't even afford to match that (but they're stupid and will do so anyway)."

Huh?  The PS3 already matches that.

"As such, MS has no reason to make a console vastly more powerful, since the other consoles will just cause multiplat quality to be lowered on it."

Then what would be the point of bothering with a new console?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

I see the problem - you're just one of those morons who actually think the PS3 is just as powerful as the Wii U, despite everyone who's actually worked with it pointing out that isn't true at all.  You've just proved that you are absolutely unwilling to have a rational discussion about this because of that.

When you're willing to grow up and realize that the PS3 is not as powerful as the Wii U - since every dev who's worked with it has said so for over a year now - then you can take a look at what I've already posted and actually see the answer to your question.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Just as powerful?  Not necessarily.  I'd say the Wii U edges it out in a lot of ways but they're definitely in the same league.

"...the PS3 is not as powerful as the Wii U - since every dev who's worked with it has said so for over a year now..."

Not even remotely close to accurate.  Most say something like "it's right up there with the 360 and PS3."  Hell, Yosuke Hayashi of Team Ninja said pretty much exactly that just yesterday.  Now that we've seen the games, I'd say that's accurate estimation.  (Which is not to say no developer has said the Wii U is definitely more powerful.  Scribblenauts developer 5th Cell has made that claim.)

So again, I don't see the wisdom of releasing brand new consoles that are only a marginal improvement over their predecessors unless they're also doing something particularly unique and disruptive.

Now, if I may throw my moderator hat on for a moment.  Your tone is uncalled for.  Please be more civil in your communications.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Vigil has made that claim, Ubisoft has made that claim, EA has made that claim - how else could these guys get perfect ports within a couple of months on a system they have no experience on (much less give Wii U SUPERIOR VERSIONS OF)?

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Well, like I said, "Which is not to say no developer has said the Wii U is definitely more powerful."  Heck, I even named one.

Although, I don't get the sense from any of the developers you named that they think the Wii U is on a whole other level.  More powerful than its contemporaries?  Sure.  Here are some quotes I dug up:

Vigil

"...the hardware is more powerful and it will have some extra features that I think will actually be useful to people playing the game. With it’s controller, [the Wii U version of Darksiders II] might be the best version of the game." -Vigil general manager David Adams, June 2011

"There's plenty of horsepower there, so we're not going to have to make any visual concessions at all for Darksiders 2... At a minimum on par, for sure." -Darksiders 2 game director Marvin Donald, July 2011

"So far the hardware's been on par with what we have with the current generations." -Marvin Donald, March 2012

Ubisoft

Is it going to be on a similar level in terms of visual quality and other aspects, as your Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 titles? "Yes, I think at least. It should be even superior for some of the games." -Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot, June 2011

"We're not obliged to constantly optimize things. Even on the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions [of Rayman Origins], we had some fill-rate issues and things like that. So it's partly us - we improved the engine - but I think the console is quite powerful. Surprisingly powerful." -Rayman creator Michel Ancel, October 2012

EA

"I think we'll be able to do anything that we can do on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on the Wii U." -EA Sports VP Andrew Wilson, July 2011

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"...how else could these guys get perfect ports within a couple of months on a system they have no experience on (much less give Wii U SUPERIOR VERSIONS OF)?"

First of all, developers have had Wii U dev kits for a lot longer than "a couple of months."  EA, Vigil, and Ubi have had them since at least spring of last year.

Second, a port stacking up in relatively little time is more indicative of a console's ease of development, something Nintendo consoles are known for and many developers have commented on.

Third, it's hard to say how the ports are going to stack up in the end as the system isn't out yet.  Early impressions don't seem to indicate that the Wii U skus are that different from the others.  Sure, I hear Black Ops 2 runs at 720p natively at 60 fps while the other versions are up-scaling and while I'd call that superior, I certainly wouldn't call it superior in all caps.

So far, I've seen one Wii U review and it called Ninja Gaiden 3 slightly inferior to its PS3 and 360 counterparts from a visual standpoint.  Not that this makes any difference, of course.  One game, one guy's opinion and all that.  It'll be interesting to see how reviews for Mass Effect 3, AC3, Darksiders 2 and the rest pan out.  My guess?  They'll be slightly better or slightly worse than their counterparts.  Why?  Because from what I've seen, the Wii U appears to be on par with the PS3 and 360.  More powerful?  Sure.  So much more powerful that Sony or MS need new hardware to compete?  Nope.  Not from what I've seen.

"Visually, Ninja Gaiden 3 is hardly going to make your PS3 and Xbox-owning friends envious. In fact, Razor’s Edge is arguably uglier than its cousins, with bland textures and a bad case of the “jaggies” combining to create a muddy look that would’ve been called out seven years ago during the Xbox 360’s launch. Still, the framerate stays (mostly) smooth, which is crucial for a game like this." -Ryan McCaffrey, November 2012

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Because Nintendo released theirs, and they might want a piece of the new console pie. Easy as that.

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

But if their new consoles don't do much more than what the current ones do now, what's the point?  Why would anyone buy them?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

because it's new and shiny. Least that's the reason I can think of. About the same reason people upgrade their Iphones when a new one comes out regardless of theirs still working.

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Because that's what the games come out on.


Alternatively, just because (see: DS Lite vs. DSi)

 

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Again: "But if their new consoles don't do much more than what the current ones do now, what's the point?"

Also, the DSi is not a new console.  With the exception of a handful of "DSi Only" titles, the DS Lite still plays all the DS games that came out after the DSi launched.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Poll: When Will Sony and Microsoft Release Their Next ...

Sony could, if it integrates Gaikai. PSN++ (more expensive than PSN+) gives every game free.

 

 
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