Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent Video Game Debate, Should 'Just Quiet Down'

January 24, 2013 -

The San Francisco Chronicle offers an in-depth article on how video games have been drawn into the discussion on gun violence featuring quotes from California State Senator Leland Yee (D-San Francisco) , IGDA Executive Director executive director, and Ian Bogost, professor of interactive computing at the Georgia Institute of Technology. The article also features comments from Gamasutra's Kris Graft, who called the industry's decision to meet with Vice-President Joe Biden's Gun Violence Commission earlier this month a mistake.

While the article is a fair assessment of the focus that has been put on video games since the Sandy Hook elementary School shootings that happened last month in Newtown, Connecticut, a particular quote from Senator Yee is sure to agitate the majority of gamers in America. Yee, who authored the failed 2005 California video game law that was struck down by the Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. EMA (it was ruled a violation of free speech rights under the First Amendment of the Constitution), said that it is time for gamers to be quiet and that he has some hope that the President's call for the CDC to study violent videogames will lead to some changes. First the galling comment about game players:

"Gamers have got to just quiet down," Yee, D-San Francisco, said in an interview Tuesday. "Gamers have no credibility in this argument. This is all about their lust for violence and the industry's lust for money. This is a billion-dollar industry. This is about their self-interest."

Later in the article Yee says that the Supreme Court set the standard too high in its ruling on Brown v. EMA and that he is pessimistic about the President's plan for CDC research:

"I'm hopeful that the president's intervention on this particular matter will make a difference, but I'm not that hopeful," Yee said.

You can read the entire article here.

Source: San Francisco Chronicle


Comments

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

The main premise of Leland Yee's argument here is supported by exceptionally poorly informed stereotypes and the fallacy of motivation. This along with his inability to understand or sheer unwillingness to consider any opinion not from his demographic makes him shockingly unfit for his job.

It's one thing to try and make a rational argument against video games and their impact, and certainly healthy to consider these opinions when in an academic context, but what Leland Yee is doing here is downright bigotry.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Makes him come off as that kid that enjoyed picking on nerds and never grew out of it.

Re: Leland Yee: I Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

No surprise that Leland Yee is continuing to show how much of a sore loser he is.

I guarantee that gamers like myself have much more credibility in this debate than he does when he acts like Jack Thompson.

The bar is high for a reason. It is because to contradict a Constitutional amendment, you need absolute proof that the free speech in question is "dangerous". Never been done, never will be done.

It's time for Leland Yee to grow up and get a life.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Seems Mr. Yee is upset that the bill he wrote not only got smacked down, but got smacked down by the highest court in the U.S. of A.

Mr Yee,

You need to calm down and shut up. You do not know anything about videogames. Therefore, you have no credibility in this argument. This is all about you trying to push a political agenda. The California game law you wrote is dead. It's time to stop beating this dead horse and move on.

 - W

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Politicians have no credibility in political debates and discourse and should just sit down and be quiet.

Lets both agree that we should each be silent and call it a day then shall we?

"If you really want to enslave people, tell them you are going to give them Total Freedom." - L. Ron Hubbard

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

People with firsthand experience in what is being discussed have no credibility in this discussion.  Only people who have never played a game can have a legitimate opinion about them.  DERP.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Ultimate hypocrite Leland Yee. He thinks 14 to 17 year old high school teenagers need to be protected from violent video games, but young children are perfectly fine being exposed to toxic plastics in children's toys, as the guy voted against a law in the California legislature years back that would have banned them. Think of the children my ass Yee.

Hope the voters in San Francisco vote this douchebag out of office as soon as possible.

"No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

And the sheep of California continue to elect this assclown simply because he has a D next to his name.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

More because he's an incumbent.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

The sheep in this state would vote for Adolf Hitler Jr-D over Tim Anderson-R especially in the bay area.

Re: Leland Yee: I Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Fortunately, Yee only has two more years in office(term limits), although he plans to run for California secretary of state next election cycle.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

See, violent video games don't make people violent, but stupid politicians, on the other hand...

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Hmm, so basically he doesn't want to hear from the same people he would be affecting.

If this was the 1950s, would he be telling black people to quiet down because they have no credibility on civil rights issues?

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Exaaaaaaaactly...

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

I know it's an extreme example, however, the point is it makes zero sense to tell one of the groups that will be most effected to just sit down and shut up.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

I've only seen this guy come up in passing, probably mainly through articles on this site. I'm wondering if he feels the same about the people going around shouting, "Derrr trine ta tick wee ah gurrrns!" Should gun enthusiasts also have to just quiet down?

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Once a jackass, always a jackass.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

http://i.imgur.com/n7DRJ.gif

I know, a bit off topic, but still, I find it appropriate for Mr. Yee

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There are only 10 types of people in this world, people who know binary and people who don't.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

In that case, I assert:

"Politicians have got to just quiet down. Politicians have no credibility in this making politics. This is all about their lust for control and notoriety. This is a cop-out. This is about pointing fingers."

Thank you for your time.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

In the 1970s, Leland Yee would have been decrying the evils of television. In the 1950s, comic books. In the 1900s, his demons would have been radio and the telephone. In the Middle Ages, he would have made a lucrative business out of prosecuting witches.

People like Mr. Yee always crop up in every generation. Fortunately, they always end up shamed and discredited.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

You forgot about rock and roll in the the fifties as well.

 - W

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Projecting much, Mr Yee?

/b

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Uh, no Senator Yee.  You are the one who has no credibility in this debate.  I used to think your intentions were good and that you were simply misguided.  Now I just think you're an ass.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

We have no credibility?  Big words coming from someone who said:

"These violent video games... can contain up to 800 hours of footage with the most atrocious content often reserved for the highest levels and can be accessed only by advanced players after hours upon hours of progressive mastery."

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

800 hours? I can't think of a Call of Duty game in the past five years that had more than 8 hours of linear Single Player gameplay.

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Papa Midnight

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Given that my wife is well over than on Skyrim, I don't think it's wrong :D

 

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

It is wrong in the context Yee is using.  Just because you can play a game for 800 hours doesn't mean you need to in order to accurately gauge its appropriateness for your children.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Yes, because clearly, the people with no credibility are the gamers. The people who are threatening to rise up against the government and/or murder people if gun laws get stricter, on the other hand? THOSE you should listen to.

Re: Leland Yee: Gamers Have 'No Credibility' in Violent ...

Stop talking about things you don't know anything about.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
 
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