Poll Results: Has Microsoft’s DRM Policies Doomed the Xbox One?

June 17, 2013 -

Last week during E3 we asked you if Microsoft's policies on used games and DRM in general on the Xbox One have doomed the new console among consumers. You responded in droves, making this poll the most voted on poll in our history of doing polls. Thanks to everyone who voted!

The general consensus among our readers is that the Xbox One is as dead as the Dreamcast (you remember the Dreamcast, right?). Sixty percent of the votes (1,247 votes) chose that option. Twenty-five percent (516 votes) said that the average consumer does not care about it, while 11 percent (231 votes) believe Microsoft will dump its used games / DRM policy prior to launch. Two percent (49 votes) chose the joke option (saying DRM is the reason they are buying the Xbox One), and one percent (29 votes) pretended to not know what "DRM policies" are.

All told, 2,072 votes were casts in last week's poll. Again we appreciate the great participation on this serious issue.

Look for a new poll very soon!

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Re: Poll Results: Has Microsoft’s DRM Policies Doomed the ...

In other news, Microsoft just announced the reversal of all new DRM policies. So yeah, good game guys, we won.

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All the reactions, including this poll, we're seeing so far are from the hardcore gamers.  What percentage of the COD/Madden crowd are going to care?  They're gonna follow their friends into there next gen.  Its way too soon to say whether or not MS's entertainment features will appeal to a wider audience.  Gamers may hate but we aren't the only consumers the Xbox 1 is aimed at.

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They'll start caring when MS's servers crash and they're locked out of their games.

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They're also the same ones that'll be the first to whine and cause a public outcry AFTER the rest of us already knew it was coming well in advance.

As well as those that'll try to make lawsuits not realizing they signed away that right.

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I'm sorry to say that I have trouble believing that this will affect the sales of the Xbox One. From what I have seen, only hardcore, informed, or privacy conscious (Not necessarily mutually exclusive) customers are the ones who are turning away from the Xbox One. I'd like to think that such fairly describes the readership of this website. I can't help but think that the average consumer will get the Xbox One irregardless (save for GameStop employees pushing customers to buy a PS4 instead the way EB Games employees did to people looking to buy a Dreamcast when the PS2 was announced). As an aside, there is also this factor.

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Papa Midnight

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Nope. While internet reaction is strong, your average consumer isn't going to care.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

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Considering the record-breaking sales of Diablo 3 and how generally well DRM-laced games sell, I'd say anyone thinking the console was dead BECAUSE OF THE DRM is a bit out of touch.

Its price, on the other hand, is a whole other story.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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It's a different situation here though.  I agree that the masses don't know and don't care about DRM, because in practice it never/rarely affects them.  What I think is really going to screw the Bone is the restrictions on trading.  People loan games to friends all the time.  When they start finding that they are unable to do that, or at least have to jump through some pretty retarded hoops to do it, I think you're going to find that a lot of new people suddenly care about DRM.  Probably not in the launch window, but if these policies stay set in stone (as MS says they will), then I give it maybe a year after launch before word of mouth sinks the Bone.

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In theory loaning games will be actually easier on Xbone - register ten friends as a "family", and you all get access to each others games without even needing to pass the discs around, the only restriction being that only one person can be playing a particular game at once (which is the same as when you needed the disc anyway)

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A fair point but I feel it's important to remember that games like Diablo III and SimCity had no alternative other than "don't play the game at all."  With the Xbox One, gamers have the option to play most of the same games on another console without the restrictions (and $100 cheaper).

 

Andrew Eisen

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That's not necessarily true, either, since there is at least at this point no confirmation that Sony will actively block any form of DRM for third-party titles.  All they've said to this point was that THEIR games would have no DRM, and that there's be no console-based DRM.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Unless Sony is lying, yes it is true.  Unlike the Xbox One, the PS4 does not require an internet connection, consumers will be able to lend and rent games on day 1 and while 3rd party publishers are free to implement some type of Online Pass scheme for monetizing used sales, there's no mechanism for blocking used games from actually working.

 

Andrew Eisen

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There's no SYSTEM-LEVEL mechanism, true.  I don't believe Sony is lying one bit.  I just also know for a fact that nothing they said prohibits third-party manufacturers from putting a system in place on the back end.  Only Nintendo does at this point.

Considering Sony's switch to a PC-similar architecture, and how prevalent DRM is on the PC, there's no reason to assume we won't end up with a DRM landscape similar to PC, especially since we already know mandatory installs will be commonplace on the PS4.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Jack Trenton said otherwise so if third parties do end up actually blocking used games from being played, then Sony was lying.

 

Andrew Eisen

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There's nothing to stop say EA putting a code in every PS4 game which registers it to an Origin account and "Requires Online Activation" in small print on the back of the box, just like a PC game. If they see any success with this stuff on Xbone do you really think they won't try to replicate the same on PS4? Short-term pain of the backlash stacked up against long-term control of the used market, publishers will go for it if they think they can get away with it.

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EA already announced that they are killing their Online Pass system. Backlash CAN and WILL work.
--"publishers will go for it if they think they can get away with it"-- The whole point is that by not supporting a system with a built in DRM system we are showing them that they CAN'T get away with it over the long term. Sony has said that they are going to "encourage" Devs not to put those used game limitations/activations in place. In this industry encourage is a stronger word than usual. So is it impossible for them to do it: No. Will I buy their games if they do: No. With this much backlash months before the release, they'd be insane to. When you downplay the issue, like MS's PR people are trying to do, you bring us closer to a world where this is acceptable, when it shouldn't be. I think it's kinda funny that if they would have slowly put these policies in place they might have been eventually accepted. But thankfully Microsoft went off the deep end with the Big Brother approach and brought this issue the attention and fury that SOPA, PIPA, and other issues brought (and needed).

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Uh, yeah.  3rd parties have the ability to monetize used games through things like Online Pass schemes.  That's what I've been saying.

 

Andrew Eisen

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And  that would be fine. So long as the DRM scheme is publisher specific and not locked to the console hardware we can simply opt to not do business with that publisher. It's when they lock it to the walled garden of the console that it removes consumer agency and becomes onerous. 

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OR around 400 dollars cheaper if you have a PC that's up to snuff.

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My thoughts exactly. Unless MS can pull off a sudden price cut, or they can justify it with much better exclusive games (both of which are unlikely), casual gamers are going to go for the PS4 or Wii U, depending on their tastes. Hence I voted for doom, but not because of the DRM.

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It's not simply the DRM, but the scope of it. What's worse is, this isn't one game, it's every game. Get banned for cheating, lose every game you ever bought. Can't connect online, no games. This thing is so laced with crap that will guarantee your games won't, work it's mind blowing.

-Greevar

"Paste superficially profound, but utterly meaningless quotation here."

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You should read the other article on this site - getting banned for cheating does NOT make you lose your games.

Again, I'm not saying it's good, but gamers have been bitching and moaning about DRM for YEARS, with nothing to show for it BECAUSE THEY STILL BUY THE PRODUCTS THEY'RE BITCHING ABOUT.  I predict that, outside the price, it'll be the exact same with the XBone.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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This indicates otherwise, unless it has been redacted.

-Greevar

"Paste superficially profound, but utterly meaningless quotation here."

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http://gamepolitics.com/2013/06/17/banned-xbox-one-accounts-will-retain-...

I'd think the interview in there carries a bit more weight than some entry-level QA person.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Wow. You sure picked a crazy account to try to verify this with.

But here is the discussion thread with that tweet in it:

https://twitter.com/XboxSupport1/status/345338828606812160

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Gamers in general, perhaps, but I've stopped buying EA and Ubisoft games.

 
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