Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, Not Internet Whining

June 20, 2013 -

According to fresh comments from former Epic Games creative director Cliff Bleszinski, Sony is responsible for Microsoft's decision to abandon restrictions on used games and region locking - not consumers who complained about it online. During E3 week Cliff Bleszinski threw his support behind Microsoft's Xbox One and its new DRM measures.

The former Epic Games developer then took to Twitter to state that Sony had played into some of the negativity around the Xbox One, which eventually saw Microsoft change tact.

"At the end of the day many hardcore dislike what was attempted. You can't do well in that space with many of your core unhappy,” said Bleszinski.

“Especially when users have a choice. The nature of capitalism encourages competition and Sony played into that.”

He added that "Sony forced Microsoft's hand, not the internet whining."

Bleszinski followed all this with predictions of doom and gloom like consumers seeing more tacked on multiplayer modes and DLC for their games, and the number of games that use micro-transactions increasing.

Source: Develop


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Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Isn't this the same guy who basically stated that indie game makers were really video game makers?

Why does anyone listen to anything he says? Ever?

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Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Wait, so he's saying that the XBone always checking in and such DRM's would've stopped PUBLISHERS money grubbing and tacking in useless rubbish and making games more microtransaction based *Glares at EA* as opposed to allowing the DEVELOPERS to make good games?....

lets see, one thinks with dollar signs, and the other thinks with the moths flying out of their wallets and want for a good name to start with on the resume...

nah, those pointless MP modes, and pay to win games will always be there, and EA's already said they intend to continue adding it into their games anyways.

Has Cliffy there gotten outside in awhile, or is his nose so far up microsofts ass at this point theres no return?

glad he's no longer with Epic.. now maybe they can keep themselves clean of his stupidity and have a clean name with the players... If he was with them and saying this stuff.. well... they'd probably see a fast downfall as a result.

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

How were people "whining"?  Their grievances were usually well-founded.  What right does a company have to tell us what we can and can't do with a $60-game after buying it?  That would be like the car industry deciding that you're no longer allowed to sell used cars.  Or a tool-making company deciding you can never loan someone a tool without the other person paying up.  

I don't play used games much at all, but the principle of the thing bothered me.

And as for the Internet connection, well, people in rural areas or deployed in the military should be allowed to game too.

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Bleszinski followed all this with predictions of doom and gloom like consumers seeing more tacked on multiplayer modes and DLC for their games, and the number of games that use micro-transactions increasing.

pure speculation and no evidence that this would have been the case! this is as wildly speculative as when people were saying that the XBone restrictions would make games cheaper. then MS announced that the games are the same exact price as PS4 games with no restrictions. They could no longer justify all the restrictions if there was no upside! so if you look at it like that, yeah Sony (and the rest of the industry) forced MS' hand because the industry listened to the internet 'whining'.

oh and calling it 'whining' really lets you know what CliffyB thinks of your opinion, fellow gamer!
 

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

i saw another quote from him a week or so ago telling us that used games are to blame for the swell of vapid, free-to-pay games like Farmville, etc

total BS - we had quarter munching games in arcades 2 decades ago and slot machines waay before that. no CliffyB, this is about money and how easy someone thinks it is to get you to part with yours.

Nintendo addressed all of this and I would love to see CliffyB respond to what they said (paraphrasing): if folks are concerned about used games, they should make better games.

 

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Not surprising really.  Microsoft has shown themselves willing to run against what people think they want to move things forward (or backwards as the case may be) such as removing the start menu in windows 8, the Ribbon in Office, etc.

Sometimes that is not a bad thing - people are comfortable with what is familiar and moving things forward does involve change.  In this case they really screwed up but were still going forward with the expectation that if they lead everybody would fall in line.  Sony threw a monkey wrench into that since MS isn't dominate and Sony would easily draw a very large number of people off (and probably still will)

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

"At the end of the day many hardcore dislike what was attempted. You can't do well in that space with many of your core unhappy," "Sony forced Microsoft's hand, not the internet whining." So I wonder where the hardcore fans expressed this unhappiness? What a moron. I wish I did not love UT as much as I do.

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Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Buzz Killington

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Welcome to Cliffy B, the arrogant douchebag of Epic.

Microsoft didn't change their minds just because of Sony nor did they change just because of consumers. They changed because it was a matter of both things put together, not one like some egotistical asshats think it is.

Microsoft changed not because they care but because they saw their dollar signs fading away. You can claim you had a hand in that and you did, but you're not the sole reason. We all are.

Sony's campaign still sucks pretty damn hard, people just love fighting over consoles like it's a goddamn political debate.

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

He's right Sony did play into it and that's why Sony won, for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

I like how CliffyB thinks all PC games are Facebook games.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

So, the consumer outcry doesn't matter, because it was only due to Sony, who took action because of consumer outcry, which doesn't matter?  Have I got that about right?

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Well of course consumer outcry doesn 't matter to him, he never listens to it.

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Dominoes. The uproar of the gamers was one of them.

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

So he's saying the Vox Populi have no pull?  

I wonder if he realizes that admitting his belief that people have no say in the products they buy is like telling someone they have no choice but to choke on his #$*%.  

Anyone this arrogant needs to be taken down a peg.

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Well, in a manner of speaking, he's right.  If Sony would have adopted similar DRM policies this roll back probably wouldn't have happened no matter how much we bitched about it (unless there was a mass exodus to the Wii U).

On the other hand, if Jack Trenton's announcement at E3 had been met with utter silence, we wouldn't be seeing a rollback now.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Cliff Bleszinski: Sony Made Microsoft Change its Mind, ...

Awww, boo hoo. Look at my tiny violin, playing the saddest song in the world.

 
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