Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX Event

July 19, 2013 -

Update: Rich Ferraro, Vice President of Communications for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), was kind enough to offer his opinion on the WBC's planned protest of GaymerX. He also confirmed that members of his organization plan on attending the event.

"Westboro mainly hunts for prime media opportunities to exploit, so it's clear the GaymerX organizers have successfully created a popular, buzz-worthy event where their attendees will no doubt overshadow Westboro's violent and shameful messages," Ferraro told us this evening.

Original Story: While it's no big surprise, the Westboro Baptist Church has renewed its promise to protest GaymerX, the first-ever LGBT friendly gaming event set to take place in San Francisco in early August. As detailed by the Huffington Post a little under a year ago, the WBC vowed at the time (during the event's crowd-funding efforts) that it would rally its forces to protest the event vigorously.

The Westboro Baptist Church is equally reviled by pro-LGBT organizations, church groups, politicians, bikers, and even those who oppose marriage equality. Most have no problem calling them a hate group. And it's not hard to understand why: WBC's protest targets also include funerals of soldiers who died in combat, celebrities, and members of the LGBT community.

Today in a tweet from the group's official Twitter feed (embedded below - warning: contains offensive language and images), they antagonized GaymerX organizers GaymerConnect with a renewed threat of a protest and some offensive anti-gay slogans.

The offending tweet form WBC:

We talked to GaymerConnect co-founders and GaymerX creators Matt Conn and Kayce Brown this afternoon about the possibility that WBC protestors might actually show up and cause trouble outside the event.

Kayce Brown told us that the biggest issue for organizers is the safety of those attending the event:

"Our first priority is safety," she told us this afternoon. "We will do everything to ensure the safety of our attendees."

Kayce also said that organizers have hired a security force to make sure that safety comes first, adding that "if they seek to really target anyone specific, it will be Matt or myself."

Judging by the tweet they sent out this morning, it seems that Matt and Kayce are popular targets for WBC.

Kayce added that bullying someone who has founded a convention about ending bullying and encouraging inclusion is probably not good for the organization's image:

"Bullying the founder of a convention whose mission is to fight bullying in the gaming space just makes them look even more ridiculous," she told us.

Of course, WBC doesn't really worry too much about its reputation or its image; it seeks to spread its divisive and incendiary message, reputation be dammed. And when it agitates someone enough to sue them the group goes to court arguing that it is exercising its right to free speech....

Finally we asked Matt Conn earlier in the day if he really believed that the WBC would really show up to protest GaymerX. He simply said, "Heck yeah."

At the end of the day the WBC probably doesn't realize that by protesting GaymerX they are simply drawing attention to the event and not their message (of course, anyone that has heard it once will likely tune it out anyway). The attention of WBC also speaks to just how far the event has come. GaymerX has gone from being a simple idea, to a crowd-funding success on Kickstarter, to a full-fledged event in one year. If the WBC didn't think it was an important events for the LGBT community they so clearly hate then they wouldn't show up in the first place...

You can learn more about GaymerX at gaymerconnect.com. Registration is still open but passes for the event are going fast. A regular badge ($45) will give you access to all the panels, the Dealer's Room, gaming rooms, the Saturday night dance, and the convention areas. A VIP badge ($135) will give you access to all the panels, the Dealer's Room, gaming rooms, the Saturday night dance, the convention areas and the Friday night VIP party. You'll also get a swag bag and a t-shirt.

 


Comments

Re: Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX ...

I, for one, welcome this move from the Westboro Baptist Church.  It's a slightly less sickening display than protesting at funerals, and I'll take that as a step up.

Re: Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX ...

Time to bust out the "God Hates Figs" t-shirts.

Re: Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX ...

I have said it before and I will say it again.

I will say this until my thought is sore and my voice is gone.

They are NOT Christian. They do not speak for Christ nor Christian.

"How do I know this?" You might ask.

The things they say are in DIRECT contradiction to the Holy Bible. I can quote Verse after Verse after Verse, on why what they say is a lie. I can guide anyone through the New and Old Testaments showing that their teachings are false. I have, sadly, become well trained in this art, as I have said these things before. I shall say them again and again, until these the lies these "demons" say is squashed in the minds of all. No Christian would behave in this manner.

 

When true Christians protest, we do so in love. You may not like the thing we teach, but we do believe them. We do NOT hate the LTGB community, but we believe that homosexuality is a sin, but I am a sinner as well. I have lied, I have broken the speed limit, I have done other things that are sins, but because of His Mercy and Grace, I am saved through Jesus Christ who paid for MY sins and all peoples sins who choose to follow him. God still loves them as he Love all humanity, as He Loves me, as He Loves you. He is saddened by sin and wants us to turn away from it, but it is our Choice to make. Christians are call to be a light in the world, to shine with Love and Compassion.

But WBC, they do not, therefor they can not be called followers of Christ.

 

If you wish to understand more as to why WBC is not Christian, or why Christians believe the things we believe. I will do my best to answer, but not out of any emotion other then Love.

 

I end in prayer; "Dear Lord, I pray that your words of Faith, Hope, and Love will find people. I pray against the false teachers, and I praise your Name for the Granddaughters who left WBC when they read your word, and saw the Truth. False teachers may teach falsely, but when your Word is read and studied, Your true love shines through. We pray for Peace to come, and Your Children are waiting for for Your Son to return, on the day of the Trumpets. Thank you Lord. In Your Name we Pray, Amen"

 

PS: I may not agree with the new Church the Granddaughters joined, as they are Pro-LTGB, BUT they do teach a message of Love.  Love is, by far, more important then their stance on any one issue.

I may be crazy, but I am not insane.

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"The things they say are in DIRECT contradiction to the Holy Bible."

The problem isn't that they're in contradiction with the Bible, but that the Bible is in contradiction with itself. The WBC's point of view can be entirely backed up by the Bible. So can the view of a moderate Christian. At least when cherry-picking - read the Bible in its entirety and neither view can be justified. This is the problem when a hodge-podge collection of writings from various  authors from superstitious times are compiled and changed over centuries. It's just incoherent.

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No its not. The Bible does not contradict itself. It does fulfill itself, Christ did not come to abolish the Law of Moses but to fulfill the Law.

 

Any verse you give me saying "here is a contradiction" I can refute it with 1) reading the whole Chapter(s) in context (90% of time).  2) (especially from the anti-theist sites) a word or two is 'conveniently' left out. Not common though, as it is the easiest one to argue. (3%) 3) Some type of misunderstanding arising from an older translation (Words change meaning over time, a good translator translates to the modern language. Happens about 7% of the time). This is why people still say "Bible says not to marry other races" NO, the Bible was originally written in a way that a persons Religion was their race (namely Jewish, which is both a Race and Religion). So the Bible ACTUALLY says "do not marry into other Religions". So, example 3 is the harder one to argue just because of the printed language changing so much and so fast. A problem that ancient people did not have as much because only highly educated people could read and write (many Kings and Nobility up through the middle ages could not, it was the Renaissance that they started too learn. Then closer to the 17th century for middle-class. If I recall history class right.)

 

I can not count the number of times that someone has said "Bible says *insert here*" and it turned out that if they had read the rest of the chapter, it said the opposite. Mainly, it is the people who frequent the anti-theist web sites, because they are just do not want to take the time too read the Bible themselves and make their own decision.

NOTE: anti-theist is NOT the same as Atheist. Some Atheist are anti-theist, but Most Atheists just do not believe, and that is their choice. They are nice about it and have the same 'live and let live' attitude that 95% of Christians have. An anti-theist goes out of their way to stop religion, to the point of persecution. I could give examples, but I consider them the same caliber as WBC, so it is more like throwing stones in a glass house if I did.

I may be crazy, but I am not insane.

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"The Bible does not contradict itself."

God is satisfied with his works. - Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works. - Gen 6:6

God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things. - Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things. - Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8

God is unchangeable. - James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable. - Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/Ex 33:1,3,17,14

The making of images forbidden. - Ex 20:4
The making of images commanded. - Ex 25:18,20

Judging of others forbidden. - Matt 7:1,2
Judging of others approved. - 1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12



Let's not even dwell on the historical and geographical inaccuracies within the bible itself.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

Re: Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX ...

OK, here we go.

 

1) It was two different points in time. Short version, God was happy originally with man, then the fall of man, God was not very happy. FYI: Gen. 6 is the start of the Flood and Noah.

 

2) It was God telling things in a dramatic way too get His point across. He already knew, but He wanted to make sure we knew that He knew.

 

3) Being Unchangeable does NOT mean God can not change His mind or decide to do things in a different order. He is consistent in His decisions, but sometimes our Prayers touch God and He is moved to change His plans, for a time (2 Kings). God was going to destroy Israel, then a great and God honoring man came (his own choice too honor God), and God spared Israel, for a time.

Unchangeable means that He is the same God today as He was in ancient times and the same in the Future.

Samuel 2:30 is not God changing His mind but declaring Judgment on those who disobeyed.

 

4) Did your source even read the book or just skim? *sigh* God commanded against making Idols (Ex 20:4). In Ex 25:18-20 God was NOT commanding to make an Idol, but giving the instructions on building the Arc of the Covenant, which was NOT to be worshiped but to hold the Ten commandments. In fact most of Exodus 25 is the instructions for the Tabernacle Items for ceremony and worship too God.

 

5) (starting with Cor 6:2-4) Paul was talking about the problem in the Church of Corinth, they were suing each other over petty disputes (reminds me a bit of America at times). He was saying 'Do not bring outsiders into the affairs of the Church. If you disagree or have a problem with someone, get a person who you both trust from within the Church to Mediate the dispute. And stop acting like spoiled children.

(now Cor 5:12) And we have come full circle. This is not so much as 'Judging' someone, as it is not letting the unrepentant sex-offender near the children. I say full circle because I do not judge the WBC, but they are not in the Church. They do not teach the truth and speak evil things, therefore they are not Christians.

 

In conclusion, why do you believe people who hate Christians? Think about it, they have a vested interest in making Christians look bad. They will do and say anything to further that goal, so they will lie.

So did YOU look these up to see if the anti-theists were telling you the truth? Not just the verses chosen but read the Whole chapter they were from?

I may be crazy, but I am not insane.

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The things they say are in DIRECT contradiction to the Holy Bible. I can quote Verse after Verse after Verse


Romans I 1:21-32


1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
1:31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 

The Shorthand-

Gays should be put to death, along with non-believers, boasters, gossipers and disobedient children- all of whom are, according to Paul, no different from murderers.

You know... if you actually believe that sort of thing.

Make no mistake, WBC reads the same bible that you do. And while you may want to argue about certain passages being taken out of context to fit their agenda (and there are), there are also plenty of passages which are unambiguously clear about their stances on such matters, such that there is -no- excuse.

In some ways, your stance is worse- because while WBC would gladly tell me I and others are going to hell for what we do and what we believe (or don't believe), we at least know they hate us and there's nothing for it.

On the other hand, your stance tells us the exact same thing, but does it with a smile, proclaims "love" and "tolerance" (while subtly threatening us with eternal torment), and is borne of "good intentions".

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Yea, Was beaten to it, but he is right.

 

Christians are not to judge but, showing love and compassion, tell the truth. Judgment is for God and God alone. I will not lie about my beliefs, Nor can I can them to suit the wants of an ever-changing world. I believe in the US constitution, and freedom of religion (or ones beliefs) is a guaranteed right.

 

I may not agree with you, but you are free to believe what you choose.

I may be crazy, but I am not insane.

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I will not lie about my beliefs, Nor can I can them to suit the wants of an ever-changing world.

 

That kind of stance is why slavery still exists in some parts of the world. Fortunately, most organized religions have been smart enough to acquiesce to the perception and views of the rest of the modern world, when it tells them for long enough that what they do or what they support is morally wrong, even when their beliefs tell them they're right. What you just said here is not conducive to any healthy society- if you discover that you're wrong, you -should- be willing to admit it, rather than take the fundamentalist route and say "I can't change my beliefs".

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Actually the Bible teach against many of those things.

"Go forth unto the WHOLE world and preach the Gospel"

Even the Abolitionists movement was formed out of the Churches following Jesus Christ lead. Because of the Brave men and women (some of who were freed from bondage to go on and help us in our fight) we won that battle.

 

We are all descendants of Adam and Eve. Even if you do not believe that personally, the Bible still teaches that all human beings are related. So if you do evil against others you are doing evil to your family. I am in the same family as my White brother, and my Hispanic brother, and my Black sister. We are all the same family even though some of us try to live apart from on another.

 

In the history of the Church, our darkest hours have always been when we changed for the "modern" world. I can think of many times the Church has been punished (by God) for going against the Bible just to avoid the temporary persecution on this Earth. Should the Jews have renounced their faith to be spared from the Nazis? Should I rewrite my Holy Scripture just because people who are not Christians dislike what it says? No, God is Unchanging His personality, I will be the same.

The word "fundamentalist" is a loaded one isn't it. It usually means (at least in modern context) a radical sect that follows an extremely strict following of their beliefs even creating new ones to be strictly followed (whether or not those beliefs were in the original Holy books). Fundamentalist LGTB organizations would demand that the constitution be changed so that freedom of religion and speech are only protected if THEY agree with it.

I know I just pissed a lot of people off, and I am sorry for that, but think about what it says about freedom, that I can only be Free if I conform to the rest of society. That, according to society, I have no right to free thought, or speech, or any exercise thereof, UNLESS society first approves of it. Does that sound like freedom to you?

I may be crazy, but I am not insane.

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however, the WBC ignores the full context of Paul's letter, which continues into Romans 2:

1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX ...

So they're still doing that, even though their founder's dead mom has been turned gay by satanists now?

Re: Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX ...

It's never been about that. It's always been about making emotionally charged statements, waiting for someone to take a swing at them, and suing them back into the stone age with an army of lawyers.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

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They'll also settle for a city forcing them to move or cease a demonstration. Before going off the deep end, they split their specialties between personal injury (common and quick settlements for the income) and civil rights (high profile and heroic for publicity).

This is why ignoring them isn't the best option: That only works with somebody who's after attention. WBC is after lawsuits. In any situation the appropriate response is a carefully measured and restrained flood of non-actionable attention.

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People do realize its like 3-8 people with 4-2 signs each. the ones trying to hold 4 signs I like to call hate butterflies. I hope people do the mock protest like they did at comicon and the Kevin smith premiers. Those were the best.

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Honestly, safety shouldn't be much of a worry with WBC. They're extremely well-controlled when it comes to violence. They know that the First Amendment protects speech but not violence, and I've never heard of them once crossing that line. They have, however, been attacked by people they provoked, and then sued them for assault.

With this in mind, hiring security to protect from them is likely a waste of money. It would be more efficient to pay for some manner to block out view and/or sound of them.

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do they not realize yet that their protests are working AGAINST them and instead helping those they protest?

Either ignorance at its best, or a genius gamble to help others...

Re: Westboro Baptist Church Renews Threat to Protest GaymerX ...

The Westboro Baptist Church gained all their money due to racism in the South. It was Fred Phelps who was able to get his part of the Democratic Party to go after others in the Democratic Party who have been using the Black Code to discriminate since the party lost the war to Lincoln. 

Over the years Fred and his children have been able to be profitable due to their practice of law. Fred still has tried and failed to become a leader in the Democratic Party going as far as keeping the same enemies as the Democratic Party such as Fox News, Glen Beck and Bill Oreily.

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Their protests frequently result in actions taken against them that are illegal and they sue either the individuals or local government, which equals profit.

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Luckily a lot of people have gotten wise to it.

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I'm not saying they aren't making money. I'm sure they are easily enough.

I'm just saying that by bringing such open attention to those they're attacking they're helping to garner attention and support for those they're trying to protest.

Especially after they protested the Military burials and won half the nation as their enemies regardless.

Thus their protests hurt the causes they claim to fight for as opposed to help.

PETA has a better reputation for succeeding than these people do.

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You're assuming they have a cause. They use the term Church to make it look that way, but they are not a church. They're a law firm. They are not acting to further the cause of other people who share their views. They are not turning others to their belief, as you cannot join the WBC, because it is a private law firm that has not hired new associates since the 80's.

The "cause" is only a cape they wear that mask their intent - they no more mean to further that cause than Bernie Madoff wanted to run a mutual fund.

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Not to mention madea huge enemy out of many, MANY motorcycle clubs, a lot of memberts of said clubs being vets themselves.

 
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