Video: The Virtual Morality of GTA V

September 23, 2013 - GamePolitics Staff

Conservative college group Campus Reform's Caleb Bonham asks college students about the "virtual morality" (or lack thereof, from his perspective) in Grand Theft Auto V. In his video he interviews college students about whether it is acceptable to run over a prostitute and get your money back or kill policemen in the game. Most say that these are perfectly acceptable activities because the world is not real. Bonham does manage to stump a few people when he asks if allowing a player to rape someone is acceptable, just like the other things players can do in the game.

A number of the people he talks to admit that allowing rape in the game might be going a bit too far and say that the industry has a line that it likely won't cross (rape).

Many game publishers do have a line they won't cross; for example, most games won't allow you to kill children and rape is still a very taboo and controversial subject in the video games industry.

Watch the video to your left. Conservative columnist Jim Treacher offers a counter-point to Bohnam's video over at The Daily Caller.


Comments

Re: Video: The Virtual Morality of GTA V

"he asks if allowing a player to rape someone is acceptable"

yes....

I wouldn't say video games are embracing those dark fantasies, but instead exploring them, getting to know them better.  The keyword in that question is "allowing", allowing the player to rape.  If it becomes a forced action, then I would have an issue with it.

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Re: Video: The Virtual Morality of GTA V

Movies and TV shows explore rape these days and no one bats an eye.

GTA5 explored torture as the guy said[ok, all he said was that you torture someone in the game] and, to me at least, they did it quite well.

Re: Video: The Virtual Morality of GTA V

Right, it seems as if the creators of the video are still stuck in that "videogames = joy" mentality, where the only emotion one gets from playing video games can only ever be happiness and release.  

I have always wanted to see someone like this play through a game like Spec Ops: The Line.  Although I don't think they could ever get through the part where *CENSORED SPOILER*.  As Yahtzee put it, its probably one of the best games you will ever play where you will not have fun.

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Re: Video: The Virtual Morality of GTA V

I talked about my thought so n this in the podcast, but I will post them here.

There are socially acceptable reasons to kill people, to take their lives without their express consent. Be that self defense, defense of family and property, in combat situations. This wide area of socially acceptable killing has made it easier to allow for murder to take place in games.

The reason many people seem to draw the line on rape is that there are no socially acceptable situations where rape is okay. It is never okay to engage in sexual activity with another against their will. That is why it is okay to include prostitution and strip clubs in GTA but not rape. With a prostitute, barring real life situations of sexual slavery, you are engaging in consensual sexual activity. Same for strip clubs. 

The reason GTA allows you to have sex with a prostitute and then kill her is because the game sees those two actions as two separate and distinct activities in the game. The game does not relate them in any way. They are only related together by the player and the spectators. 

Re: Video: The Virtual Morality of GTA V

Torture is, apparently, not across that line, however.

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Re: Video: The Virtual Morality of GTA V

Well, the American branch of the industry has that line... There are Japanese developers who have shown they're more than comfortable including rape into their games, Rapelay obviously being the first to mind for many I'd wager... It's something I doubt we'll see stateside any time soon (if at all).

Although I have to admit I was quite surprised to see the first few games with nudity trickle into the market...

 
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