Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

December 26, 2013 - GamePolitics Staff

Earlier in the week we briefly mentioned former NSA contractor and leaker Edward Snowden's interview with the Washington Post where he noted that his mission "was already accomplished" because the press and the public are talking about the spy agency's various intelligence gathering operations.

In another interview on the UK's Channel 4, Snowden notes that having a discussion about spying is "always cheaper."

In his Channel 4 appearance, Snowden said that the NSA and its counterparts in Europe and the UK have set up what he calls a "system of worldwide mass surveillance, watching everything we do," and that "a child born today will grow up without any conception of privacy and that’s a problem because privacy matters. It allows us to determine who we are and who we want to be."

He closes by saying that the conversations we are having now about these issues will ultimately shape privacy in the future and will determine our trust in technology.

He closes by saying, "Asking is always cheaper than spying."

Source: GIGA OM


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Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

Ah yes.  Just what I need:  A holiday greeting from a self-righteous paranoiac.   Just the thing to put me in the holiday mood.  No thank you.

Again, Snowden's really stretching it here.  Yes, kids today growing up won't have the same sense of privacy that their parents or grandparents did.  But you know what?  They're pretty okay with it, and have come to accept it.  Their own parents have been using tech to monitor their phone calls and websurfing.  So they'll be pretty used to that concept by the time they get to be adults.

Is that good?  Is that bad?  I don't know.  Nobody can really say conclusively.  But I doubt it's going to curtail their ability to determine "who [they] are and who [they] want to be."  Again, Snowden is taking it upon himself to say what's right or wrong.  And that sounds more to me like something Big Brother would do.  And for that matter, I think his comparing America's and the U.K. surveillance network to "anything beyond what George Orwell would have envisioned" is laying it on a little thick.

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

"They're pretty okay with it, and have come to accept it Their own parents have been using tech to monitor their phone calls and websurfing"

No most teens are not ok with there parents spying on them. Also its not a good idea for parents to spy, Doing so can in up hurting the kids trust in them and pushing them away, And its not healthy for the parent to be that involved in their kids life. Also most would agree that parents who go that far are nuts and need help.

"So they'll be pretty used to that concept by the time they get to be adults"

So we are raising kids to not care about government surveillance that is not good.

"But I doubt it's going to curtail their ability to determine who [they] are and who [they] want to be"

Yes it will. Kids need privacy because with it comes independence, And that is crucial for normal development. Parents who spy on their kids usually have kids who are more depended on them as adults and are less emotionally developed then others whos parents gave them privacy and freedom that comes with it.

"And that sounds more to me like something Big Brother would do"

So hes big brother for speaking out against big brother? HUH

When i was a kid i read 1984 and thought to my self IMPOSSIBLE. That can never happen, I mean the people would rise up i thought and stop that from happening. And now look where we are. Its scary, But its even scarier that you and others like you Aren't .

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

Show me, exactly, right now, what rights of ours have been stripped away by this program?  Don't give "could be's" or "what if's."  I haven't seen any evidence that our basic rights have been infringed by this program.

If you can show me a clear example of someone here in this country who was clearly falsely imprisoned through the NSA's actions, maybe I'll believe you.  But right now it seems like Snowden and the people like you who follow him are just assuming the worst.

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

For many privacy is a basic right

But Anyways i never said in my post that rights where being taking away or that people were being falsely imprisoned, Stop putting words in peoples mouths.

What saddens me is that it seems that you think we should wait until things like that do happen before we stop it. I say its better to prevent it from happen before its to late.

Also you are naive to think the government wont abuse this. since they already have.

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

How about "the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures"? 

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

Reminds me of a special I watched on teen internet use. One father had software that monitored what his teen kids did and it sent him an email roughly every ten minutes I think.

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

Again, Snowden is taking it upon himself to say what's right or wrong.  And that sounds more to me like something Big Brother would do.

The difference here is that Snowden wants us to have a choice in the matter. The Federal government does not. That is big brother for you. "You will be watched and you will like it."

But again, you are ignoring the fact that the only reason we are having these conversations about surveillance is because of what Snowden leaked. While a minority of people suspected what we now know, no one knew for sure nor did they have enough information to start a real dialog. I think his leaks are a great thing for that.

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

The difference here is that Snowden wants us to have a choice in the matter. The Federal government does not. That is big brother for you. "You will be watched and you will like it."

Snowden may want us to have a choice, but unfortunately from what I've observed of human nature, people at their basic level are lazy and would sooner have things done for them, not by them given the chance.  Most people seem to care more about voting on American Idol than they do political issues in this country. :(

Maybe some good will come of this.  Maybe it won't.  I can't help but be pessimistic when it comes to this sort of thing and what I've seen in my life so far.  As technology increases, and that technology makes it easier for government and law enforcement to survey the populace, they're going to use it.  The genie is out of the bottle and there's no way to put it back.  So I say get used to it, and just hope that sensible heads can prevail and just limit the potential for abuse that is there.

Snowden may have done the U.S. a favor by exposing this, but his motivations are entirely self-serving.

Re: Edward Snowden: Asking is Always Cheaper Than Spying

"people at their basic level are lazy and would sooner have things done for them, not by them given the chance."

 

Hey, don't assume we're all like you.

 
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