Submitted by Mauler - May 15, 2008 at 4:43 pm -0500
Don't make the mistake that Taze-Me was there to get a question answered. There is nothing that Kerry could have done to satisfy this fool. He was going to make an incident and did that. He was going to resist arrest until 1 of 2 things happened. Either they beat him senseless with batons or they taze him. The tools in the arsenal of the officer for someone resisting arrest in a non-violent crime are limited at best.
However, your command of history is lacking if you don't think that protesters weren't exposed to "less lethal" methods of crowd control during civil rights and sufferage demonstrations. Had they tazers available back then they would have used them. This isn't about debating a speeding ticket (you are always going to lose that one with the cop who has written the ticket) or for some minor offense that would have ended up with a ticket and a promise to appear but an offense that is going to end up with someone in custody. Apples to apples and all that. So which should they have given him - A good beating that leaves bruises or the tazer which has a much shorter negative impact. Yes, tazers do kill but so does beating someone into submission.
Posted 08/21/08 at 03:03pm Talouin: @ZippyDSMlee: Yea, that game has a really high learning curve fun when you got the hang of it but the SE developers need a kick
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:45pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin:I quit FF11 3 months after I started, is a horrible game from top to bottom.
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:28pm Talouin: @SimonBob: I have never been happier I quit FFXI last month until now.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:59pm ZippyDSMlee: Boyycotting only works when sheeple care, the masses have to want to care about subtleties, in general they do not thus why corporate gets as far as it does. However boycotting can raise a fuss and the bad PR might make them take note.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:20pm SimonBob: There's a full explanation of the FFXI PW fight up: http://rukenshin.livejournal.com/17133.html
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:16pm Talouin: @Quander, That fight is brand spanking new. People just don't know how to do it yet.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm AM: @GP: Boycott is unlikely to be effective due to how few people would be aware/participate. That said, I boycott EA over their "3 installs then buy another copy" copy protection, so I can't say it's NOT a good idea.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm GryphonOsiris: @Scribe, just read that. The reports are saying that is was a targeted killing. Odds are a bully, gang related or something.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:03pm SimonBob: I just glanced over some of the companies' game lists; turns out I was already boycotting three of them anyway.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:36pm gamepolitics: is a gamer boycott of atari, codemasters, topware and the other 2 UK firms who are extorting file-sharers a good idea?
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:19pm scribe999: Another school shooting...this time in Tennessee. Terrible news. And I'm sure there's much hyperbole to follow.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:10pm sortableturnip: hehehe ;)
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:09pm DarkTetsuya: @sortableturnip I'm totally putting what you said as my sig :P thanks!
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:02pm sortableturnip: OMG JT speaking in front of another BS group: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2007/09/04/
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Posted 08/21/08 at 11:50am Neeneko: @Quander - I"m not all that familiar with FFXI, but maybe this mob just requires more gank? or there is a trick? larger group?
Posted 08/21/08 at 07:54am sortableturnip: The "smoking gun" is the Florida Bar dropping its insurance coverage from Nationwide
Posted 08/20/08 at 05:19pm jccalhoun: it would be interesting to hire a detective to investigae Jacko and find out his "smoking gun"
Posted 08/20/08 at 03:18pm sortableturnip: That guild forgot to pick up the "Sword of 1000 Truths" b4 engaging the mob ;)
Don't make the mistake that Taze-Me was there to get a question answered. There is nothing that Kerry could have done to satisfy this fool. He was going to make an incident and did that. He was going to resist arrest until 1 of 2 things happened. Either they beat him senseless with batons or they taze him. The tools in the arsenal of the officer for someone resisting arrest in a non-violent crime are limited at best.
However, your command of history is lacking if you don't think that protesters weren't exposed to "less lethal" methods of crowd control during civil rights and sufferage demonstrations. Had they tazers available back then they would have used them. This isn't about debating a speeding ticket (you are always going to lose that one with the cop who has written the ticket) or for some minor offense that would have ended up with a ticket and a promise to appear but an offense that is going to end up with someone in custody. Apples to apples and all that. So which should they have given him - A good beating that leaves bruises or the tazer which has a much shorter negative impact. Yes, tazers do kill but so does beating someone into submission.