Submitted by Steven Schaeffer - May 16, 2008 at 2:21 pm -0500
Please understand the verbiage in which you are referring. "Excessive force," has a distinct definition in regard to law enforcement and thusly I would advise against casual usage in the lexicon. Police have the right to utilize force when a citizen does not comply with their demands. Similarly, citizens have the right to protest and follow through with legal action at a later date if they believe the orders were in violation of their protected rights as an American. The Taser was utilized, and often is utilized; in order to not only protect the safety of the police officers but the young man as well. Rather than need to inflict the bodily harm of being dragged, bound or wrestled out of the area police used a relatively safe measure in the form of electric shock. That technique is greatly preferable to being hit, struck, pulled, pushed, twisted, doused in chemicals or shot. The police officers in the incident, while frightening for how well they executed their training, acted with a great deal of restraint and level headiness when they proceeded to give the inciter multiple opportunities to cease his actions before they moved to a usually non-lethal form of force. The young man was in violation of the law and was asked to leave, attempts to direct him out failed, and when the decision was made to arrest him he physically resisted officers of the law. And so, with my considerations in mind and while being clear on the scenario, I ask what you would have found to have been a better avenue of action by the involved?
Posted 08/27/08 at 04:05pm SimonBob: HB: I actually voted for the old Green party, back before the treehuggers took over from the small-c conservatives.
Posted 08/27/08 at 02:57pm ZippyDSMlee: So bascily the 2 aprty setup is soemthign that has not evolved any....
Posted 08/27/08 at 02:04pm Dark Sovereign: @Joel: Their entitled to their bull like the rest of us are.
Posted 08/27/08 at 02:02pm HarmlessBunny: Awww Jack is calling the Florida Bar: "The Florida Gay Bar". How mature! :D
Posted 08/27/08 at 01:54pm JoelWhy: Wow, I am so tired of these Hillary-worshippers who can't get over the fact that she lost. Dems keep finding new ways to lose.'
Posted 08/27/08 at 01:41pm Dark Sovereign: @Harmlessbunny: We in America have something like forty of those parties. We have 5 parties that actually produce prez candies
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:53pm sortableturnip: JT needs help from the ACLU here: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/08/27/the-name-game.aspx
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:51pm GryphonOsiris: However this is limited to five years.
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:50pm GryphonOsiris: @Chuma, actually, sarin kept in a binary form for things like self mixing shells can extend the life of the chemical.
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:45pm DarkTetsuya: @questionmark1987 I'm guessing they're waiting till his licensectomy this September... should be fun to watch ^^;
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:35pm questionmark1987: SO at what point can webmasters start filing suit against Thompson for harrassment?
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:23pm HarmlessBunny: OH OH OH http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/08/26/whos-backing-who.aspx?pg=2&view=linear#Comment Jack gets priceless in here!
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:18pm HarmlessBunny: For EZK: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/08/26/whos-backing-who.aspx#comment-1316308
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:10pm E. Zachary Knight: link please
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:03pm sortableturnip: JT is threatening the webmaster at JAABlog, saying he changed a word in his post so that it was mispelled HA HA HA!
Posted 08/27/08 at 11:35am HarmlessBunny: Well we in Canada to have the joke parties, like Bloc Quebecois and NDP (New Democrat Party) OH and the new "Green Party" :)
Posted 08/27/08 at 11:07am Talouin: @Azhrarn: It's the same in Canada. Only two parties to form a federal gov't are Liberals and Conservatives.
Posted 08/27/08 at 10:42am Zevorick: Yeah, but you can find a lot of things in Texas that don't count. I should know, i've lived here all my life.
Posted 08/27/08 at 09:04am sqlrob: wehrgeist - there have been more WMDs found in Tyler , Texas than Iraq
Posted 08/27/08 at 08:16am Azhrarn: So they have been effectively 2-party for a century now. (not counting coalitions of all parties)
Please understand the verbiage in which you are referring. "Excessive force," has a distinct definition in regard to law enforcement and thusly I would advise against casual usage in the lexicon. Police have the right to utilize force when a citizen does not comply with their demands. Similarly, citizens have the right to protest and follow through with legal action at a later date if they believe the orders were in violation of their protected rights as an American. The Taser was utilized, and often is utilized; in order to not only protect the safety of the police officers but the young man as well. Rather than need to inflict the bodily harm of being dragged, bound or wrestled out of the area police used a relatively safe measure in the form of electric shock. That technique is greatly preferable to being hit, struck, pulled, pushed, twisted, doused in chemicals or shot. The police officers in the incident, while frightening for how well they executed their training, acted with a great deal of restraint and level headiness when they proceeded to give the inciter multiple opportunities to cease his actions before they moved to a usually non-lethal form of force. The young man was in violation of the law and was asked to leave, attempts to direct him out failed, and when the decision was made to arrest him he physically resisted officers of the law. And so, with my considerations in mind and while being clear on the scenario, I ask what you would have found to have been a better avenue of action by the involved?