Submitted by Steven Schaeffer - May 16, 2008 at 3:18 pm -0500
You are not legally allowed to argue with a police officer for a ticket. Any protest or denial should be made at the appropriate venue. Engaging an officer in an argument is grounds for an insubordination and possible resisting arrest charge. Police are trained to give a person not engaged in a situation of immediate threat the opportunity to comply with verbal requests before resorting to force. Acceptable levels of force are usually in direct ratio to level of perceived or possible resistance or threat posed.
For instance, a J-walker caught in the act of crossing an empty road is not posing an acceptable threat to the safety of police officers or civilians to warrant force. Changing the scenario changes the possible threat and thusly the acceptability of force. Add to the possibility innocent bystanders, a political motorcade, refusal to comply and physical assault on authorities and force may be necessary. Notice my usage of the word "May."
There are many factors and legal caveats that a police officer faces when a weapon of any kind is drawn. To best protect the rights of a suspect and to protect their own standing on the proper side of the laws of the United States police officers give aforementioned warnings to those facing weapons or physical restraint. In this case video evidence clearly shows the many warnings given the assailant, and his refusal to comply or submit.
In the United States a person has the right to protest, assuming he has undergone the proper channels to organize as granted by the Bill of Rights. Historically those in the process of protesting have faced the usage of force ranging from fire hoses and dog attacks all the way to machine gun fire. Give me a Taser to the chest any day - though any civil disobedience I engage in will be as part of a properly organized unit that is not in violation of the law and not infringing on the rights of others, so I doubt I will be seeing any sparks.
Posted 08/27/08 at 04:05pm SimonBob: HB: I actually voted for the old Green party, back before the treehuggers took over from the small-c conservatives.
Posted 08/27/08 at 02:57pm ZippyDSMlee: So bascily the 2 aprty setup is soemthign that has not evolved any....
Posted 08/27/08 at 02:04pm Dark Sovereign: @Joel: Their entitled to their bull like the rest of us are.
Posted 08/27/08 at 02:02pm HarmlessBunny: Awww Jack is calling the Florida Bar: "The Florida Gay Bar". How mature! :D
Posted 08/27/08 at 01:54pm JoelWhy: Wow, I am so tired of these Hillary-worshippers who can't get over the fact that she lost. Dems keep finding new ways to lose.'
Posted 08/27/08 at 01:41pm Dark Sovereign: @Harmlessbunny: We in America have something like forty of those parties. We have 5 parties that actually produce prez candies
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:53pm sortableturnip: JT needs help from the ACLU here: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/08/27/the-name-game.aspx
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:51pm GryphonOsiris: However this is limited to five years.
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:50pm GryphonOsiris: @Chuma, actually, sarin kept in a binary form for things like self mixing shells can extend the life of the chemical.
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:45pm DarkTetsuya: @questionmark1987 I'm guessing they're waiting till his licensectomy this September... should be fun to watch ^^;
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:35pm questionmark1987: SO at what point can webmasters start filing suit against Thompson for harrassment?
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:23pm HarmlessBunny: OH OH OH http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/08/26/whos-backing-who.aspx?pg=2&view=linear#Comment Jack gets priceless in here!
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:18pm HarmlessBunny: For EZK: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/08/26/whos-backing-who.aspx#comment-1316308
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:10pm E. Zachary Knight: link please
Posted 08/27/08 at 12:03pm sortableturnip: JT is threatening the webmaster at JAABlog, saying he changed a word in his post so that it was mispelled HA HA HA!
Posted 08/27/08 at 11:35am HarmlessBunny: Well we in Canada to have the joke parties, like Bloc Quebecois and NDP (New Democrat Party) OH and the new "Green Party" :)
Posted 08/27/08 at 11:07am Talouin: @Azhrarn: It's the same in Canada. Only two parties to form a federal gov't are Liberals and Conservatives.
Posted 08/27/08 at 10:42am Zevorick: Yeah, but you can find a lot of things in Texas that don't count. I should know, i've lived here all my life.
Posted 08/27/08 at 09:04am sqlrob: wehrgeist - there have been more WMDs found in Tyler , Texas than Iraq
Posted 08/27/08 at 08:16am Azhrarn: So they have been effectively 2-party for a century now. (not counting coalitions of all parties)
For instance, a J-walker caught in the act of crossing an empty road is not posing an acceptable threat to the safety of police officers or civilians to warrant force. Changing the scenario changes the possible threat and thusly the acceptability of force. Add to the possibility innocent bystanders, a political motorcade, refusal to comply and physical assault on authorities and force may be necessary. Notice my usage of the word "May."