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Matthew WilsonI think its a good article, and devs can take some lessons from life is strange.04/24/2015 - 10:24pm
Andrew EisenI tinyURL'd it. The world is safe!04/24/2015 - 10:23pm
Matthew Wilson@AE my bad there is nothing I can do about that.04/24/2015 - 10:21pm
Andrew EisenLooks like the spoiler is right there in the URL.04/24/2015 - 10:20pm
Matthew Wilson a interesting opinion piece on the life is strange episode 2, and a dark event that happens in it. full warning major spoilers.04/24/2015 - 10:11pm
Matthew Wilson@mech no just she, nor her co workers have not. she never said it is not real.04/24/2015 - 8:58pm
MechaCrashWas she saying "I haven't experienced it," or "I haven't experienced it therefore it does not exist"?04/24/2015 - 8:31pm
ZippyDSMleeoy the skyrim paid mod thing is going over well. My 2 lints, I would not mind if Skyrim had a full SDK and not a crappy lil editor....04/24/2015 - 6:46pm
Andrew EisenWell, that is indeed crappy and nonsensical.04/24/2015 - 3:45pm
Matthew Wilsonshe got attacked for saying that she personaly has not experienced the harassment some other female devs have, and she got acused of defending GG and ignoring harassment. she ended up getting dog piled because of it.04/24/2015 - 3:43pm
Andrew EisenFine but do you recall ANY details at all?04/24/2015 - 3:38pm
Matthew Wilsonit was several weeks ago now, and I will admit to not saving it.04/24/2015 - 3:36pm
Andrew EisenAttacked HOW and by WHOM for not writing off WHO as evil? Do you have a link or anything?04/24/2015 - 3:31pm
Matthew Wilsonthat is the whole point she was not attacked for saying anything. she was attacked for being willing to debate in the first place, and not just write them off as evil.04/24/2015 - 3:28pm
Andrew EisenI know there's not a lot of room in the Shout box but goodness you're being vague.04/24/2015 - 3:26pm
Andrew EisenGreat, but that STILL doesn't tell me what she said, why she was attacked (or what the attack was) or what "standard line" she's following. Details, man. Details!04/24/2015 - 3:25pm
Andrew EisenOr what the heck Nina White (someone else I've never heard of) is actually referring to.04/24/2015 - 3:24pm
Matthew Wilson@AE she is a game dev. she used to do stuff with hormanix and now works with!/?page_id=2 she will often engage and debate both side.04/24/2015 - 3:23pm
Andrew Eisen...following.04/24/2015 - 3:23pm
Andrew EisenYou mean focus on stopping the bad behavior of those who are doing it rather than condemning all the people that associate with them? Great. But I still don't know who Emma Clarkson is, what she said, why she was attacked or what "standard line" she's04/24/2015 - 3:23pm
Matthew WilsonI think people are coming around to the idea that divide and conqueror might be a more effective method than scorched earth. scorched earth has been tried for 8 months with almost no progress, so its time try something new.04/24/2015 - 3:20pm
Andrew EisenCan you elaborate? I don't know who that is.04/24/2015 - 3:17pm
Matthew Wilsonas I understand just general difference of opinion. for example I have seen Emma Clarkson get attacked becouse she chooses to engage and debate, instead of just fallow the standard line.04/24/2015 - 3:13pm
Andrew Eisen'Cause if it's the latter, that kind of stuff should be shamed.04/24/2015 - 2:47pm
Andrew EisenAnd shaming women for being women or having an opinion or shaming specific women for exhibiting particularly repugnant attitudes or behaviors?04/24/2015 - 2:47pm
Andrew Eisen"Last few days" seems pretty specific. I honestly don't know what he's talking about. I hear that sentiment all the time but I've never actually seen an example of it.04/24/2015 - 2:46pm
Matthew Wilsonjust the general actions on both sides, but in particular those who are anti gg, but using the same tactics of harassment and shaming.04/24/2015 - 2:34pm
Andrew EisenMatthew - What is he referring to?04/24/2015 - 2:24pm
PHX Corp The Most Ridiculous Skyrim Mods People Are Trying To Sell On Steam04/24/2015 - 2:09pm
Matthew Wilson a interesting set of tweets by Nina White, and I agree with him.04/24/2015 - 12:59pm
Andrew EisenOh, absolutely. Such behavior is unacceptible. Period. It doesn't matter who the ugliness is directed towards. I've never heard anyone state otherwise but I suppose it's worth saying.04/24/2015 - 10:47am
MattsworknameMatt wilson , I'd seen that, and I don't disagree with it, though i do think it won't be as simple as that, it certainly would make things better04/24/2015 - 2:24am
MattsworknameAgreed whole heartedly Andrew, so long as we agree that it should be reported equally and fairly. You wont get any disagreement from me.04/24/2015 - 2:23am
Andrew one should ever act like it was or is okay. We should continue to call it out, condemn it and fight against it until that garbage stops.04/24/2015 - 12:06am
Andrew EisenMatt - Unprecedented amount of reporting? Sure and deservedly so. Goes hand in hand with the unprecedented nature of the attacks. Regardless, whether anyone could have, should have or did anticipate that level of unwarranted nastiness...04/24/2015 - 12:04am
Matthew Wilson@PM everything I read said 25% valve 50% publisher 25% mod maker.04/23/2015 - 11:49pm
Papa MidnightApparently, though I didn't verify this myself (admittedly), VALVe takes 75% of the purchase price for community creations.04/23/2015 - 11:41pm
Papa MidnightJudging by the state of SteamCommunity and reddit, people don't seem to thrilled with VALVe's community creations policies.04/23/2015 - 11:39pm
Matthew Wilsonwrong site it was slate my bad. - 10:27pm
MattsworknameWhich piece was that Matthw? Voxx did alot of them04/23/2015 - 9:57pm
Matthew WilsonI dont like ether side of this mess, but I think the vox peice from a few months back is one of the better peices on how to end this stupid thing.04/23/2015 - 9:47pm
MattsworknameTrue mecha, but in ideology fights like this, most times people dont care who or what the allies do.04/23/2015 - 9:47pm
MechaCrashIt is incredibly obvious that Milo had no dog in this fight and was inserting himself for reasons unrelated to gaming, it's just that he *actually did* what GG keeps accusing Sarkeesian of doing.04/23/2015 - 9:28pm
MattsworknameAlso, andrew, I knew there were others, just wasnt aware of there specifcs names or anything04/23/2015 - 9:23pm
MattsworknameAndrew, I think what was unprecedented was how much reporting there was on it. It was never really big in the public eye before.04/23/2015 - 9:22pm
MattsworknameMilo came around cause it srved is purpose. Lots of people do Mecha. its called politics04/23/2015 - 9:20pm
MechaCrashI'm sure there's more, Milo is just the first guy that comes to mind as "fraud with political agenda."04/23/2015 - 9:14pm
PHX CorpIm trying to test out Windows 10 Tech Preview Project Spartan web browser by stopping by GP04/23/2015 - 9:13pm
Andrew EisenReally, that's it? Off the top of my head I can name Thunderf00t, Amazing Atheist, AlphaOmegaSin (haven't watched any myself), tl;dr, Mr. Repzion and that guy behind the Sarkeesian Effect.04/23/2015 - 9:04pm
MechaCrashYeah, remember when Sarkeesian publicly stated games weren't for her, or called gamers "losers in yellowing underpants?" Oh, wait, that was Yianopolous. Funny how that never seems to come up...04/23/2015 - 9:02pm
Andrew EisenUnprecedented too. I don't think we had ever seen anything like this up to that point. Not on that scale for what it was targeting.04/23/2015 - 9:01pm
MattsworknameAndrew, the only video maker I know who seems to do anything realy direct about anita is some guy called Sargon of akkhad04/23/2015 - 9:01pm
Andrew EisenDisagree. The sheer frequency and severity of the abuse and threats (again, before she even said anything) was completely unexpected for most, I'd wager.04/23/2015 - 9:00pm
MattsworknameAndrew, if you spend time on any for of online gaming, you had to know that crap was coming.04/23/2015 - 8:45pm
Andrew EisenI rather enjoy Sarkeesian's videos. This is true. But I would defend anyone who has been mischaracterized or lied about. Even Jack Thompson. Sarkeesian is not special in that regard.04/23/2015 - 8:00pm
Andrew EisenKaylaKaze - We've been over this. She's not lying about anything. She's taken nothing out of context (in the sense that it would change what she's talking about) and the Mirror's Edge thing was something someone else made up.04/23/2015 - 7:57pm
Andrew EisenMatt - I don't fully agree. I think everyone, even Sarkeesian, expected disagreement and even trolling and name calling but I don't think most expected the outright threats and attacks simply for intending to analyse games from a particular perspective.04/23/2015 - 7:56pm
KaylaKazeYes Andrew, we all know how big your hard-on is for her. The evidence is all over.04/23/2015 - 7:55pm
KaylaKazeI agree with her alleged position, but you don't do justice to your position when you support it with lies and taking things out of context. And don't even get me started on "Mirror's Edge's controls are too hard for girls!"04/23/2015 - 7:54pm
Andrew EisenKaylaKaze - Great, but considering there's no evidence she's a con artist, such an statement makes you look really foolish and obnoxious.04/23/2015 - 7:53pm
Andrew EisenThat's the perception some seem to be under but the problem is, Thompson's antics were unquestionably an attack against our hobby (in the tangibly destructive sense), Sarkeesian's criticisms are unquestionably not.04/23/2015 - 7:52pm
KaylaKazeI don't think her work is an attack against my hobby. I think she's a disengenuous con artist whose only goals are fame and money.04/23/2015 - 7:50pm
Mattsworknamework were , she still has the right ot posti t, but she shouldn't have been suprised by the reaction, it was entirely predictible, though in no way justified. But, the negitive reaction was exactly what I expected to happen.04/23/2015 - 7:47pm
MattsworknameI think it boils down to a an already angry and hostile group viewing her work as an out and out attack against there hobby. Sorta the way Jack thompsons stuff was viewed back in the day. I made the argument that, whatever my personal concerns with her04/23/2015 - 7:46pm
Andrew EisenI just can't personally comprehend people who want to dislike someone or something so incredibly badly that they flat-out make stuff up in order to justify that dislike.04/23/2015 - 7:18pm
Andrew EisenI want to understand where this attitude and belief is coming from but so far, there's just nothing there. Maybe some people need a boogeyman so badly that their willing to completely make stuff up to make it so.04/23/2015 - 7:17pm
Andrew Eisen...but I want to believe that people aren't this obnoxious and nonsensical.04/23/2015 - 7:16pm
Andrew EisenI know. But polite and earnest people keep saying "But Andrew, this video shows that Sarkeesian is X!" So I watch the video and - every single time so far - the linked video does nothing to support their claim. Shame on me, I guess...04/23/2015 - 7:15pm
Mattsworknameyou'll never be done if you do.04/23/2015 - 7:14pm
MattsworknameThe net has a near endless supply of that stuff andrew. don't try to watch it all.04/23/2015 - 7:13pm
Andrew EisenAnd because I always try to give people and their claims the benefit of the doubt, I keep watching the damn things.04/23/2015 - 7:11pm
Andrew EisenYeah, I'm well aware of the many YouTubers who frequently rail against Sarkeesian. People keep linking me to them.04/23/2015 - 7:09pm
Andrew EisenPoorly written visual novels where choice mostly doesn't matter (despite that being a selling point) with gameplay (what incredibly little there is) that's mostly not engaging.04/23/2015 - 7:08pm
MattsworknameAndrew: oh, Im just saying tthats whats going on right now. you don't get that kinda enmity anywhere else but the Internet.04/23/2015 - 7:07pm
Matthew Wilson@AE it is becouse their recent stuff are basically visual novels.04/23/2015 - 7:05pm
Andrew EisenMattsworkname - Yeah, so?04/23/2015 - 7:05pm
Mattsworknameas for the honey badgers, as I pointed out, they seem to just make crazy crap happen no matter where they go.04/23/2015 - 7:05pm
Andrew EisenI still just want them to make games I enjoy. Love adventure games and love the IP but can't stand their recent games.04/23/2015 - 7:04pm
MattsworknameAndrew, Sarkeesian isn't a con artist, but she has plenty of enemies, hell ,theres whole swaths of youtube that are dedicated soley to debunking her videos.04/23/2015 - 7:04pm
Andrew EisenWell, gross mismanagement if it doesn't have the staff to cover all its projects.04/23/2015 - 7:04pm
Matthew Wilson@AE as I understand it they have 240 people split among 5 projects, an by the loke of the jobs page they are hiring a decent number of people.04/23/2015 - 7:03pm
Andrew EisenA. No reason it can't do both (although Disney is both Star Wars and Marvel. Does EA have an exclusive on Star Wars for video games?) so long as it... B. Has the staff to cover all its projects, data I'm not privy to.04/23/2015 - 7:00pm
Matthew WilsonA. I thought they would go with EA since disney is with star wars. B. does telltale even have the staff to handle all their cureent projects plus those new ones?04/23/2015 - 6:52pm
Andrew EisenI just hope Telltale finally makes a game I enjoy playing.04/23/2015 - 6:51pm
Andrew EisenI don't find it the least bit surprising. Why do you?04/23/2015 - 6:48pm
Matthew Wilson that is surprising, what do you guys think?04/23/2015 - 6:44pm
Matthew Wilson@AE @EZK I think the valve monitizing mods is a very worth while topic for this weekends show.04/23/2015 - 5:18pm
prh99You know what hell with this site.04/23/2015 - 2:44pm
prh99Believe what you want. I know what I meant to say.04/23/2015 - 2:42pm
Andrew EisenLanguage, people. Language. Really naughty words get deleted.04/23/2015 - 2:41pm
Michael Chandra#norealtypo04/23/2015 - 2:39pm
Michael ChandraOf course it was.04/23/2015 - 2:39pm
prh99It was typo. Jeez. Though I wouldn't be surprised if some of the same people were involved in the complaints.04/23/2015 - 2:37pm
Michael ChandraWait, CalgaryCon tried to get SupaNova to recall bringing Baldwin? Where did you get that from?04/23/2015 - 2:36pm
prh99So an expo booted a group they thought supported gamergate. Big surprise, similar groups did try to get Adam Baldwin removed as speaker on unsupported claim his presence would cause more harassment. They've made no bones about their desire for blacklists.04/23/2015 - 2:35pm
Andrew EisenIanC - As has been explained repeatedly over the years, Sarkeesian is not a con artist and until you can provide any evidence that she is, I will not permit such libel in the Shout box or comments.04/23/2015 - 2:34pm
MechaCrashThe Honey Badgers didn't just lie to get in and disrupt panels, they knew that getting bounced was a possibility, and are already selling shirts. THIS is what a "professional victim" actually looks like.04/23/2015 - 2:33pm
E. Zachary KnightMicheal, They violated the trust of the con operators. Why would any con run by those operators want them to attend let alone exhibit?04/23/2015 - 2:29pm
Michael ChandraDisclaimer: Chances are I still wouldn't listen even if you're being reasonable. I already picked my own opinion and doubt anybody will manage to change it.04/23/2015 - 2:27pm
Michael ChandraBut this? Yeah no...04/23/2015 - 2:25pm
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