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Mattsworknameroles07/28/2015 - 5:20pm
MattsworknameThey don't itget to have done how they like when they liek ,cause NO one does. They don't like it, tough, they can deal with it by doing there own games for all i care, but they need to shut the fuck up about the indsutry. It gives them tons of lead07/28/2015 - 5:20pm
MattsworknameYou dont get to argue that andrew, men or women do NOT get a say in how a game portary them, That is at the whim of the developer. YOu may not like how it's done, but the list hows, clearly, that women get a large amount of representation in the industry07/28/2015 - 5:19pm
Andrew EisenAlso, those few hundred games aren't from 2014. They're from the past couple decades. I spotted one from as early as 1990 and a bunch that aren't out yet.07/28/2015 - 5:19pm
Andrew EisenBecause the argument is not just how many games have women in them but how they are portrayed in those games.07/28/2015 - 5:16pm
Mattsworknamerepresented in games then Aniita and company like to claim?07/28/2015 - 5:15pm
MattsworknameAndrew: Even if you low ball the number of games on that list, or were to discount those that don't have exclusively female protaganists, that list is 36 pages long, 10 per page, thats HUNDREDS of games. how does that not show that woman are far better07/28/2015 - 5:14pm
Andrew EisenI never said you said sexism or harassment doesn't exist and didn't mean to imply it either. No, I'm not cherry picking. Obviously.07/28/2015 - 5:11pm
Andrew EisenNo, gaming companies are not on their knees. That's silly. They're free to listen or not listen as they see fit.07/28/2015 - 5:09pm
Andrew EisenAnd no, you are not labeled a misogynist for simply disagreeing with people like Sarkeesian or Quinn. That is completely untrue.07/28/2015 - 5:08pm
Andrew EisenSorry for the all caps but we don't have the ability to bold in the the Shout box.07/28/2015 - 5:08pm
NatirI never said sexism and harassment doesn't exists, just those few women are making it seem way worse. Are you literally cherry picking one part of the entire conversation going on here?07/28/2015 - 5:08pm
NatirAndrew, if you disagree with people like Anita Sarkeesian or Zoe Quinn, you are labeled as misogynistic. Gaming companies are at their knees when it comes to people like them and gaming journalism. You disagree with them, your reputation is on the line.07/28/2015 - 5:07pm
Andrew EisenNatir - This is what you said: "The point is that these women do very little for the gaming industry but paint it to be a very bad place. From just constant harassment from (male) gamers to just SEXISM IN THE WORKPLACE. Stuff that just isn't true."07/28/2015 - 5:06pm
NatirI'm not arguing anything about sexism and harassment in the workplace... What are you talking about?07/28/2015 - 5:04pm
Andrew EisenYes, you've linked that several times and several times I've explained why that list isn't exactly what it says it is nor is it reflective of the actual criticism.07/28/2015 - 5:04pm
Mattsworknamehttp://www.giantbomb.com/female-protagonists/3015-2287/games/07/28/2015 - 5:01pm
MattsworknameFor the record, here is a list of games with female protagnists from they year 2014, as per giant bomb.07/28/2015 - 5:01pm
Mattsworknameandrew, I think natir may have ment a differnet point. I don't think he was aruging the workplace side, I think he was aruging the diversity in the games themselves, maybe.07/28/2015 - 5:01pm
Andrew EisenAnd I'll repeat this as many times as it needs repeating: no one (except maybe some random, anonymous numb nuts on Twitter) is calling anyone a misogynist simply for disagreeing with Sarkeesian and her ilk.07/28/2015 - 5:01pm
 

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